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Escalation

Every episode covering Escalation.


"The transgression is the act that awakens the slumber and that leads into the omen."

— Stu Willis  |  DZ-121: Escalating Antagonism in SINNERS


KEY IDEAS

Information Danger Loop in Thrillers

"There is a cost to learning the information. There's another phrase from game design that I like in terms of thrillers, which is information puts players in danger and danger rewards characters with information, right? That's kind of the loop with like thriller game design."

— Stu Willis (00:05:40) · DZ-126: Secrets and Clues

Creating Narrative Energy Through Oscillation

"We're oscillating between push and pull, right? In a way: learning information is pull; danger is push, right? So you're talking about a way of creating a narrative energy from oscillating between those two."

— Stu Willis (01:22:50) · DZ-126: Secrets and Clues

The Cost of Discovery

"When is the information revealed to the character and when does it create danger? What are the particular skills of a character that allowed them to obtain the information? And then what is the cost of learning the information?"

— Chas Fisher (00:32:44) · DZ-126: Secrets and Clues

The Save-Survive-Save Character Arc

"There is a related idea... which is: **Save. Survive. Save.** All which are goals for your characters."

— Stu Willis (00:01:10) · DZ-122: Escalating Antagonism Across Genres

Sequence Structure Through Tomb Cycles

"I think each sequence runs through its own tomb cycle. Each sequence culminates in a Banishment and a Slumber and then the next sequence starts with a new Transgression."

— Chas Fisher (00:21:22) · DZ-122: Escalating Antagonism Across Genres

Escalating Antagonism Through the TOMBS Cycle

"And today we are looking at how to escalate antagonism within the story. And we are looking at this the lens that we are looking at escalating antagonism is through a paradigm that Stu discovered in the ttrpg horror Mothership and that paradigm is called TOMBS: Transgression Omens Manifestation Banishment and Slumber and I'm really excited about this topic."

— Chas Fisher (00:00:35) · DZ-121: Escalating Antagonism in SINNERS

Transgression as the Story Catalyst

"The transgression is the act that awakens the slumber and that leads into the omen."

— Stu Willis (00:08:29) · DZ-121: Escalating Antagonism in SINNERS

Act Two Rhythm

"From that point onwards, there's a rhythm of this film. And what happens is the rhythm is Ron is busted by someone, be it the FDA or the IRS or Dr. Savard. So someone tries to shut him down. Within often two pages, Ron sorts this out. Like there was one point where they had their location shut down. A few pages later, Ron has a new location. There's another point where Ron is broke, within a few pages, Rayon is lending him money. But what there is, is a rhythm to the act two."

— Chas Fisher (01:14:47) · DZ-1: Do Screenplay Gurus win you Oscars?



DZ-126: Secrets and Clues

How can Secrets and Clues motivate characters?
AIThe episode centers on how getting information puts characters in danger and danger rewards them with information--a feedback loop that escalates the stakes differently for each protagonist depending on their relationship to agency.
⏱ 1h 28m
30 APR 2026
Listen if you want to understand how hidden information drives character motivation and plot structure!
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“Getting information puts your character in danger. And danger rewards your character with information." — One of three ideas we steal from game design in this episode. In this two part series, we talk about how secrets, clues and hidden information motivate characters and may (or may not) help you plot from a character perspective. Part One (this episode) looks at WAKE UP DEAD MAN; while Part Two looks at SIDE EFFECTS, and the pilot episode of SHRINKING…


DZ-122: Escalating Antagonism Across Genres

How can you apply horror ideas to action and comedy?
AIKim and Stu repeatedly note that TOMBS and antagonistic thinking allow writers to ensure everything escalates for everyone in every single way, making the push-pull of competing forces feel riveting rather than arbitrary.
⏱ 1h 44m
1 OCT 2025
Listen to learn how thinking of your hero as the horror (for your villains) makes your script dynamic.
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In this episode Chas, Stu and guest Kim Ho continue their exploration into the power(s) of antagonism and how focusing on them can develop story…


DZ-121: Escalating Antagonism in SINNERS

How do the antagonistic forces in your story escalate distinctly from the protagonists' journey?
AIInstead of hitting a turning point and slumping, Stu explains that thinking of beats as rising points of escalation that transform keeps your antagonism continuously evolving rather than stalling mid-story.
⏱ 1h 24m
29 AUG 2025
Listen to strengthen your story by focusing on the antagonistic forces in your script.
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We often struggle to develop the middle stages of a story. Could this be because we focus on our protagonists’ journeys and plot structure more than on how the antagonistic powers are awakened, wronged, discovered, gathering strength and revealing themselves…


DZ-29: Showdowns & Scene Structure

What can fight scenes - whether physical or verbal - teach us about structuring any scene?
AIFight scenes demand escalation to stay dynamic, and Chas and Stu trace how reversals and rising stakes keep audience attention from opening blow to final resolution.
⏱ 1h 41m
25 JAN 2016
Listen to discover how fight scenes can be great inspiration for writing any kind of showdown (verbal or otherwise)
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In exploring how to write good fight scenes, Stu and Chas compare how writers structure memorable showdowns - both verbal and physical. Fights vs arguments. Swords vs insults. Lightsabres vs passive aggressive subtext. To do this, they analyse the showdowns in EASTERN PROMISES, ROB ROY, THE FORCE AWAKENS (yes, yes, we finally let Stu officially discuss Star Wars), A FEW GOOD MEN, BREAKING BAD and BEFORE SUNSET…


DZ-1: Do Screenplay Gurus win you Oscars?

Do Oscar-Nominated screenwriters follow the structural formulas prescribed by the 'gurus' and books?
AIChas notes that Philomena maintains reader engagement through ’escalation of a reveal and each reveal triggers a new sequence,’ while Dallas Buyers Club uses ’this constant bust, Ron recovers, Ron becomes a better person, another bust.'
⏱ 1h 40m
1 MAR 2014
Listen if you want to know whether Blake Snyder, Michael Hauge and Christopher Vogler's structural theories actually apply to Academy Award-nominated screenplays
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Three of the most widely read structure books in screenwriting — Snyder’s Save the Cat, Vogler’s The Writer’s Journey, and Michael Hauge’s Six Stages — all make essentially the same claim: this is how great films are built. In our debut episode, we run that claim against two Oscar-nominated films to see if it holds: PHILOMENA and DALLAS BUYERS CLUB…


DZ-83: A Very Thematic Stand-up Special!

What can screenwriters learn from the storytelling techniques used by stand-up comedians?
AIDaniel Kitson’s structure ‘doesn’t feel essential to make to his skill set to maintaining my interest,’ yet he achieves catharsis by ‘building and building and building on that emotion’ before the payoff, showing escalation as a tool independent of plot.
⏱ 2h 31m
8 SEP 2021
Listen if you want to understand how stand-up comedians grip audiences and build emotional arcs (and what narrative tools screenwriters can borrow from comedy)!
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Standup comedians can keep audiences gripped to their every word for over an hour, and often bring them to emotional climaxes by the end. So how do they do it and what tools can apply to scripted narratives…