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DZ-53: Antagonists! 5 - vs Audience

What if there is no antagonist?

Legacy Episode — Migrated from our original site. Will take time to tidy up!

⏱ 2h 26m
26 AUG 2018

Show Notes

It’s time. The Epic Deep Dive(TM) into Antagonists has reached its shuddering conclusion. And for this Part V - by choosing films that have no obvious singular antagonist (and in some cases no obvious narrative either) - Stu and Chas realised there was indeed a final category of antagonists: the films themselves. Where the film (and the filmmaker) are engaging directly with the audience. Where the films are… VERSUS AUDIENCE.

The films that led to this “insight” often lie to the audience; talk directly to the audience; misdirect the audience; take the audience on meandering narrative strolls; or make the central character the antagonist to all other characters. Sometimes these techniques power a single scene. Sometimes they take up the whole film. All this to keep the audience compelled in the absence of singular antagonists. And these films are - drum roll, please - OCEAN’S 8, THE SECOND, F FOR FAKE, SANS SOLEIL and FORREST GUMP.

As always: SPOILERS ABOUND!

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Chapters

  • 00:03:22 – NTRODUCTION: vs Audience
  • 00:20:31 – OCEAN’S EIGHT
  • 00:46:53 – THE SECOND
  • 01:14:06 – F FOR FAKE
  • 01:31:46 – SANS SOLEIL
  • 01:48:55 – FORREST GUMP
  • 02:15:12 – WRAP UP AND KEY LEARNINGS

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