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DZ-50: Antagonists! (Part 2) - vs Self

How can characters be their own antagonist?

Legacy Episode — Migrated from our original site. Will take time to tidy up!

⏱ 1h 47m
19 APR 2018

Show Notes

In Part Two of our Five Part Epic Exploration™ into antagonists, Chas & Stu take a look at “vs self” stories. Stories where the protagonist (or main character) serves as their own antagonist as well as the antagonist for those around them.

It took us a long time to settle on our homework, but we ended up exploring LITTLE MISS SUNSHINE, SHAME, and MONSTER. Our discussion continues in backmatter with MINDHUNTER and STEVE JOBS.

As a result of our exploration, we manage to get a better understanding of our ’thesu’ on: internal vs external change; obstacles and pressure; stories without singular antagonists; and how it really is the antagonistic forces that carve out the protagonist’s journey.

As always: SPOILERS ABOUND!

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Chapters

  • 00:05:15 – LITTLE MISS SUNSHINE
  • 00:25:10 – SHAME
  • 00:53:53 – MONSTER
  • 01:20:10 – WRAP UP
  • 01:33:40 – MINDHUNTER

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